Thursday, August 06, 2026

IPSC Breakout Session 3 Trademark Confusion & Consumer Perception

Trademark Confusion as a Matter of Law, Andrew Michaels

Is infringement a proposition about the world, or about the law? Fact: an empirical predictive question about the world. Law: a normative judgment about whether there should be legal responsibility—is the confusion likely enough that we should find infringement? 2d/Minority view: Q of law based on underlying facts. 9th and majority view: Q of fact reviewed for clear error. 9th said that LOC decisions have “limited precedential value” b/c they stand on their own facts, reducing the need for de novo review. But that might be a reason to treat it as a Q of law to get more consistency and predictability. Issue of law would make it easier to decide on SJ/without trial, compared to claims that SJ should usually be avoided.

Judges and juries are thought to be good at different things. Jury: community; judge: compare with other cases/predictability allowing businesses to order their affairs more easily. Easier to decide on SJ: might help prevent bullying of parodists, other users.

Appellate v. trial court: underlying factors of intent, actual confusion might be better assessed by trial court; balancing/weighing of factors and legal comparison might be more suited for appellate court. Some factors may be more factual: evidence of actual confusion; intent (witness testimony/credibility). Similarity of marks should be legal because the jury has to ask “compared to what?” whereas the court can look at other cases. Same with products. Strength of mark conceptually should be Q of law; commercial strength is a matter of fact for witness testimony.

Lisa Ramsey: Matal v. Tam—constitutional issue exists, and LOC is a speech protective doctrine, implicating Bose. JDI even says that MTD can be ok because of contextual considerations. If it can be resolved on a MTD, it can be a Q of law.

RT: Bose v. Consumers Union on de novo review when the facts have constitutional significance. On the “compared to what” for similarity of marks/similarity of products? the theory is “similar enough that consumers are likely to confuse them.”

James Dabney: time was that likely confusion would be enough for an injunction, not damages or disgorgement; now things are different.

Google v. Oracle—is this legal or factual? Similar issue of mixed question of law & fact.

Q: right to jury trial?

A: could ask them questions about the factors; could ask for an advisory jury verdict, which they do a lot for patent obviousness/did with GvO. Multifactor=often an issue of law.

McKenna: LOC factors were made up; makes it feel more fact bound b/c courts think they have to walk through the factors even when they are ill-fitting. The legal standard is supposed to be: substantial number of reasonable consumers. Look at negligence where courts are more willing to grant SJ because they are more willing to consider what reasonableness is.

Factors and Fictions: The Empirical Collapse of the Likelihood-of-Confusion Test Across the Federal Courts, Thomas Reichert

Every circuit makes the same 4 commitments: (1) the test is flexible; bright lines misfire; (2) no factor is dispositive; (3) the set is open so you can bring in other considerations/add factors; (4) provides structure and allows appellate review. But: How often is this true?

Used an LLM to read every confusion opinion 1970-2025, temperature set low to inject less randomness, and ask whether the court considered a factor and how strongly it favored/disfavored confusion. The model is not trying to judge factor weight itself, just trying to identify what the court said about how the factor weighed. Around 11,000 opinions analyzed. Courts analyze 6.35 factors/case; only 40% consider them all.

Hand audited 1002 codings; 97% agreement on weight and 100% on direction.

The key factors: similarity of marks and proximity of goods/services. If both favor confusion, predict confusion; if both don’t, predict lack of confusion. Can predict 93.5% of every federal TM case. Consistent across circuits and time, though less in 8th circuit where the case count is small, and there’s a dip in the 90s (his hypothesis is domain names). The other factors operate as “structured overrides.” Defeaters are where both factors favor confusion but the court finds none. A lot of cases: no actual confusion, high buyer sophistication, good faith adoption, and weak mark strength. Substitutes: a predicate factor was weak/divided, but confusion found anyway: strong/famous mark; bad faith intent.

The test is already hierarchical. Courts should say so. Appellate practice wrongly rewards factor by factor mark. Could right size discovery/do less initial discovery. Tell juries the machinery: model jury instructions in 9th Circuit already tell juries what weighs more and we could do more.

Could apply the same questions to © fair use; sentencing.

Betsy Rosenblatt: has been done for © fair use—you may not want to reinvent the wheel. But one interesting thing about © fair use that might or might not match w/TM infringement is that how one comes out on transformativeness tends to predict how the case comes out. It doesn’t mean that transformativeness is the whole game; but it influences how the other factors work rather than rendering them unimportant. In general we may want those other factors to be doing more work than they’re doing, not less. You may have identified a problem rather than a solution. Should juries perhaps pay more attention to sophistication? Right now they don’t have a good definition.

Should parody be a special case b/c the factors work differently?

Q: Fed Cir has criticized TTAB for relying too much on similarity, so that result is pretty funny (the Fed Cir was most likely to rely on the 2).

McKenna: it’s not that the other factors just come out—the question of how much similarity there is b/t marks and goods are not found in nature. It’s not a © comparison. All the other information is just influencing the judgment about similarity. It’s context for which you understand levels of similarity, informed by all the other information. So sequencing discovery would be difficult b/c you’d be ruling out the contextual information you need to make judgments about similarity of marks and similarity of products.

A: we’re measuring the opinions, not the reasoning process.

McKenna: sure, but your prescriptions make assumptions about how the reasoning works.

A: Crowding in the market can definitely change similarity assessments.

Q: if courts were honest and said it’s a 2 element test, with a determination made through a bunch of subfactors, would that work better?

A: that’s the next paper. You can create a flowchart of how to do the analysis with substitutes/defeaters. You could do a burden shift! [Burden of production I assume, not burden of proof.]

Ramsey: dilution doesn’t consider relatedness of goods—does that matter?

A: didn’t look for any correlation w/dilution.

Ramsey: some courts say strength increases likely confusion, but academics and parody cases say that strength can decrease likely confusion b/c people know what the real thing looks like.

A: strength moves w/the verdict generally, but can substitute for proximity if the mark is very strong.

Ramsey: should separate out commercial & conceptual strength & see what happens.

Q: the other factors were originally not relevant to competing goods situations; practitioners got into the habit of applying Polaroid/etc. in all circumstances when it wasn’t needed in the direct competition cases. That would support the empirical observation that competition and similarity, the two pre-Polaroid metrics, were actually always the most important.  

21st Century Trademark Surveys, Rebecca Tushnet (with Chris Sprigman & Stephan Tontrup)

A statutory interpretation component: what do the terms in the statute like affiliation and connection actually mean? Weird that we don’t have much of an answer after 80 years, isn’t it? So we believe the definitions we are using are grounded in the proper legal meaning of affiliation et cetera.

The empirical part: we currently don’t tell survey respondents (or jurors) what “affiliation” etc. means and we also don’t have any good reason to think that they know what it means for legal purposes, which doesn’t include references—if you think of Sprite when you see Poppi Lemon-Lime, there can’t be deception about affiliation or connection because you really did think that, but a layperson could say “yes, there’s a connection”—the survey may not even be revealing mistakes of law, as Sotomayor et al have discussed with parodies, but mistakes about the meaning of the words used in the survey! So let’s try to fix that with a training module as in genericness surveys and see what happens. Including allowing a response “this is about the trademark/trademark owner.”

And implications for jury instructions: survey respondents and jurors are in the same position.

Larger questions: there are lots of areas where we want to know how some audience perceives communication: 1A compelled speech/will you be associated w/the statement; labor law: how employees perceive employer speech—we don’t ask the workers! True threats—hypothetical reasonable person.  But only in the Lanham Act do we actually use surveys! [Probabalistic—less than half can still be a large number of people for economically, socially, or politically significant messages. Why is probabilistic thinking persuasive in TM & not other areas? Plaintiffs’ bar? Courts willing to credit that “substantial numbers” matter even if not majority b/c they can imagine the harm to the substantial consumer mass/the consumer mass may not be imagined to share any other minoritarian identities (or may be imagined to need special protection—cite Ann Bartow on gender)? Possible lesser importance of public interest lets courts defer to surveys in TM and rely on policy preferences in 1A—though that lack of interest in reality on the ground is not necessarily good for 1A jurisprudence.

Rosenblatt: affiliation and approval are easy to get wrong; even experts get them wrong. Pattern jury instruction?

Q: we’re in the post literate era: disconnect b/t regular people and lawyers. If literacy rates are going down, we need to define terms for them.

Ramsey: courts focusing on text of statute: approval language concerns me. We don’t want people to be confused about permission. Don’t ask compound questions. “goes along with” is a bad definition too.

RT: approval and permission aren’t the same thing but this is where mistake of law comes in. There is an issue with repeating questions too—that’s more likely to get a “yes” somewhere in there.

Rothman: Working on project w/Joel Steckel—one of the things we worked w/was mini survey about meaning of these terms and people were using lay definitions. How should they be defined?

An Axe to Grind? The Legal History and Trademark Challenges of Guitars, Mark Blankenship

When does a guitar shape identify a type of guitar v. manufacturer? Sears Roebuck catalog is the precursor to Amazon and Temu, making gear affordable to players who didn’t live near a music store. Different claims over time—Japanese “knockoffs” that eventually resolved into new body shapes as well as some generic ones. Other issues: German court allowed © claim in guitar body shapes; separability would be an issue in the US unless the guitar also includes features like shark fins.

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